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Denying The Virgin Birth?


I have an eldest son who is determined to convince my younger sons to deny messiah. This situation has become very grievous to my very soul. Having raised all my children to believe in messiah, and the virgin birth of the messiah, and now having my eldest try to undermine that teaching and promote heresies to his siblings has now brought me to a place of possibly having to deny him in order to maintain the future faith of my other children.

I don't know if my eldest has ever really believed in messiah, or maybe he was feigning his belief all these years. I first got a sense of his disbelief when became almost gravely ill and was expected to die. I at that time vaguely remember trying to speak to him about faith, and believing God would pull me through the illness. At that time I just remember him shrugging his shoulders at me in a mocking way when mentioning God. This disturbed me because I found his shrug to be a dismissive attitude towards my faith in God. I also remember every time me and my  sons would have a bible study on the Sabbath, my son would come in and try to angrily disrupt our study and our peace. The atmosphere of our home became so strife filled that I eventually moved out with my children and allowed this relative to just have the apartment we all had lived in, and seldom came into contact .

A few years later, I was surprised to run into my eldest son who excitedly explained to me that he now believed in the bible, and that he was keeping the commandments. Of course this news excited me, being it was better than him not believing in God. Thinking he had changed since his new professing of faith, I began allowing my other sons to be around him. Until then I had encouraged them to not interact with him, fearing his disrespect of me would rub off on them also. As I began to communicate with my eldest son, I began to question whether or not he had actually changed, something wasn't adding up. When I would try to discuss the messiah , or the holy spirit with him, he'd always seem to abruptly change the subject. It seemed he was more interested in whether or not Esau was the white man than the gospel itself. One day while discussing scripture, I decided to just confront him head-on. I asked him point-blank if he believed in the messiah and it surprised me when he said yes. Something still seemed off though, so I asked him if he believed in the virgin birth of the messiah, and that's when all hell broke out. He mocked me and called me a Christian as if it were an insult. He then began trying to convince me I wasn't in the faith if I believed in the virgin birth, and even told me I didn't know who or what the holy spirit was. I had to actually block my own son from calling me due to his vile harassment .

Another year or so went by before I spoke to him again. Once again I bumped into him somewhere in the town we both live in. I think like any mother, I was glad to see my son seemingly doing well, and stopped to ask him how he was faring. I also once again naively dropped my guard with him and allowed him to be around his siblings. It didn't take long to discover he hadn't at all changed, but in fact had become more heretical in his understanding. He now not only denied the virgin birth of the messiah, but also now began preaching it along with other false doctrines such as reincarnation, and now believes he is a prophet. He is hell bent on convincing my younger son of the same.

What Does The Bible Say About The Identity Of The Messiah...

Matthew 16:13-
13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

In this passage we see the messiah asking Peter "But whom say ye that I am?" This was Peter's response, "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God."
Messiah then says to Peter, " Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven."
Notice what messiah said to Peter? He said flesh and blood had not revealed who the messiah was , but the Father which is in heaven had revealed it to Peter.
Messiah then goes on to say to Peter "Upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."
I know many think Peter is the rock on which the church is built, but no. What the messiah is saying is, The knowledge of him as the only begotten son, the word of God, is the rock on which the "church" is built, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
So in other words, all those who are in the "church" or in the faith, have to come through messiah. All those who try to come in another way are the thieves and robbers , or the agents of the gates of hell, masquerading as angels of light.

2 Corinthians 11:13-15
13. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

A Perfect Breaking Down Of Who And What The Messiah Actually Was

John 1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
19 And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou?
20 And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ.
21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.
22 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself?
23 He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias.
24 And they which were sent were of the Pharisees.
25 And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet?
26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;
27 He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose.
28 These things were done in Bethabara beyond Jordan, where John was baptizing.
29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

You can not get more clearer than John on who the messiah is, Just as it becomes very clear that anyone not being able to understand the first chapter of the book of John concerning who the messiah is, does not have the spirit of God. The things of God must be discerned by those have the spirit of God, just as messiah said to Peter, "The Father in heaven has revealed this to you Peter".

1 Corinthians 2:7-
But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

The Danger In Denying The Virgin Birth

There is a danger in denying the virgin birth of messiah, which some will dismiss as unimportant. I believe the only ones who will dismiss the nature of his birth, which also speaks of his preexistence as the word of God, are those who really don't believe in the messiah, just as my son, who doesn't really believe in the messiah. Many are satisfied with just the simple acknowledgment of the messiah or the usage of the name "Jesus". They never really press these people on who the messiah is, like messiah pressed Peter on who Peter said he was.
The bible says many will come in his name, deceiving many. The bible also speaks of Many saying to him on that day

Matthew 7:21-
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

So What Does The Bible Say About Those Who Deny The Messiah Came In The Flesh

! John 4:
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

The bible says try the spirits to see if they are of God. We saw earlier that Peter knew the identity of the messiah because God had revealed this to him. So we are to try the "spirits" to see if they are of God, by seeing if they confess the messiah " the word of God" was manifested in the flesh. Any spirit which does not confess The word (the messiah) has come in the flesh is an Antichrist. Scripture says many antichrists have gone out into the world.

What Is Are The Characteristics Of An Antichrist Spirit ?

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world

For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

From these verses I posted, An antichrist spirit has the characteristics of being a liar, and a deceiver. It also denies the true identity of the messiah (The word of God).
A deceiver is anyone who leads followers astray, away from the word of God into heresies or unbelief.

The bible speaks of the last days as being a time when many will not heed sound doctrine,
1 Timothy 4:1-2
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

Anytime a person who professes to believe in the bible, but doesn't believe in what the bible says about the identity of the messiah, although the very truth is staring them right in the face, that person is a heretic


Lastly, What Are We To Do With A Heretic?
her·e·tic /ˈherəˌtik/ 📷Learn to pronounce
noun a person believing in or practicing religious heresy. Similar: dissident dissenter nonconformist

We must go by what the bible says, and not one's own interpretation of what they want the bible to say. We also are told to lean not to our own understanding, but in all our ways acknowledge him. A heretic leans to their own understanding, and causes strife, confusion, heresies among the brethren. They have a tendency to want to gather a following consisting of those they can throw off course through their heresies and form their own cult through the guise of being a prophet, or a messiah. The manipulative heretic will often manipulate his followers by saying the reason they can not understand is either they are unbeliever, none conformist to their views, or by pretending to have a private interpretation on the subject.
But the messiah says, his sheep hear his voice, and the voice of a stranger they will not follow, but will flee from them.
A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;

















































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